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TIX FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
TABLE OF CONTENTS
Legal Issues
+ [L.1] Is Tix free software?
General Questions About Using The Tix Library
+ [G.1] What does the "-disablecallback" option do?
+ [G.2] How do I set the width of the entry subwidget inside
the tixControl widget?
+ [G.3] What is the "setslient" method?
+ [G.4] Is there a Tix interface builder in the works?
+ [G.5] Can you tell me about the syntax of tixForm
+ [G.6] I am not using the tixForm geometry manager, but it is
giving me errors about TixForm. What happened?
+ [G.7] How do I generate the tclIndex file for Tix?
+ [G.8] Can I ignore the default arguments passed by the
various -command and -broeswcmd options?
+ [G.9] What does tixWidgetDoWhenIdle do?
+ [G.10] Why isn't such a feature in Tix? Will it be
implemented?
+ [G.11] Who are using Tix in their software?
+ [G.12] I am using a DirList widget. When the user clicks on
an item, the procedure of my -browsecmd gets called twice.
However, I just want it to be called once.
+ [G.13] I get an error "can't read data(-value): no such
element in array" when I use the tixExFileSelectDialog.
Question About Porting to Specific Platforms/Software
+ [P.1] The configure script gave me strange errors.
+ [P.2] Does Tix 4.1 work with Tk 4.1
+ [P.3] Does Tix work with Incr Tcl 2.0?
+ [P.4] How do I get Tix to work with Expect?
+ [P.5] Solaris 2.4: Filenames in FileSelectBox are chopped
off.
+ [P.6] Do I still need libXpm?
+ [P.7] I get a coredump as soon as tixwish starts up.
Porting from Tix 3.6 to Tix 4.x
+ [X.1] What happened to the tixInit command?
+ [X.2] How do I set the schemes and fontsets in Tix 4.x?
+ [X.3] How do I choose the default TK color schemes and
fontsets? Tix is messing up the colors of my existing
programs.
+ [X.4] I want the old bisque look of Tk 3.6. tk_bisque doesn't
work.
_________________________________________________________________
LEGAL ISSUES
[L.1] Is Tix free software?
ANSWER: Tix is distributed under the same license as Tcl/Tk
(a.k.a. BSD style license). Application developers can freely
redistribute Tix along with their products.
We will continue to provide free technical support and
maintainence for Tix. However, to recover the development
costs, we would appreciate financial supports for the Tix user
community. If you like Tix and would like to make a donation to
the Tix Project, please send mail to xpi@xpi.com.
_________________________________________________________________
GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT USING THE TIX LIBRARY
[G.1] What does the "-disablecallback" option do?
ANSWER: Many Tix widgets have both a -value option and a
-command option. Any modification of the -value will cause the
-command callback to be executed. Sometimes this is
undesirable. For example, calling "config -value" inside the
callback procedure will cause the callback to be re-entered and
thus an infinite recursion.
The -disablecallback can be used to advoid this problem. When
this option is set, the -command callback will not be executed
even if the -value of a widget is changed. Therefore, if you
need to modify the -value of a widget inside its callback, do
this:
proc my_callback {w} {
$w config -disablecallback true
$w config value blah
$w config -disablecallback false
}
If you find this too troublesome, you can call the command
tixSetSilent:
proc my_callback {w} {
tixSetSilent $w blah
}
[G.2] How do I set the width of the entry subwidget inside the
tixControl widget?
ANSWER: You can use the option database or the -options flag to
set the configuration options of the subwidgets. E.g:
option add *TixControl*entry.width 10
OR
tixControl .c -options {
entry.width 10
}
[G.3] What is the "setslient" method?
ANSWER: This is an obsolete method. You could use it to achieve
the same effect as the -disablecallback option. selsilent used
to be a widget command for the ComboBox, Control, etc. It has
been removed since Tix 4.0a4 and replaced by the tixSetSilent
command. Please note that tixSetSilent is not a widget command
but an external procedure.
[G.4] Is there a Tix interface builder in the works?
ANSWER: Yes. But I don't know when it will be finished.
(probably in 96).
[G.5] Can you tell me about the syntax of tixForm
ANSWER: Please see the file man/Form.html or man/Form.n.
[G.6] I am not using the tixForm geometry manager, but it is giving me
errors about TixForm. What happened?
ANSWER: When you get error messages like this:
(TixForm) Error:Trying to use more than one geometry
manager for the same master window.
Giving up after 50 iterations.
Most likely, the problem is when using tixLabelFrame widgets, you
packed to the wrong frame:
This is WRONG:
tixLabelFrame .d
button .d.b
pack .d.b
This is the correct way:
tixLabelFrame .d
set f [.d subwidget frame]
button $f.b
pack $f.b
pack .d
Remember you don't pack directly into a TixLabelFrame widget. Instead,
you should pack into its frame subwidget.
[G.7] How do I generate the tclIndex file for Tix?
ANSWER: Tix tclIndex files cannot be generated using the
standard auto_mkindex procedure. You must use the tixindex
program in the tools/ subdirectory in the Tix distribution. The
syntax is
tixindex *.tcl
[G.8] Can I ignore the default arguments passed by the various
-command and -broeswcmd options?
ANSWER: You can use the tixBreak command. For example:
tixFileSelectDialog .c -command "puts foo; tixBreak"
[G.9] What does tixWidgetDoWhenIdle do?
ANSWER: It does the same thing as tixDoWhileIdle (and "after
-idle"). The difference is it takes its second argument as the
name of a widget and executes this command only if the widget
exists: i.e.:
tixWidgetDoWhenIdle tixComboBox::Update $w blah blah ..
will execute tixComboBox::Update only if $w exists. $w may be
destroyed after tixWidgetDoWhenIdle is called but before an
idle event happens.
[G.10] Why isn't such a feature in Tix? Will it be implemented?
ANSWER: Generally requests for new features are welcomed. You
can send your requests to tix@xpi.com and we'll be happy to
hear from you.
We can't guarantee to implement the requested features
immediately. Usually it depends on how important the features.
If the feature is requested by more people, it will usually get
done faster. However, some frequently requested features
probably won't be imlemented. Usually these features are
cosmetic changes and:
+ they do not add new capability to the widgets
+ they are not universally liked
+ they confuse the user.
Some examples are:
+ Different foreground and background colors for the NoteBook
tabs: having a lot of colors may antagonize the users that
are "color haters"; also, the different colors don't make it
easier for the user to locate the desired tab.
+ Ring-binder metaphore for the NoteBook widget: a waste of
screen real estate.
+ Rows of tabs for the NoteBook widget: the user may be
confused when the rows of tabs are switched. If you need to
have a lot of tabs for the notebook, use the ListNoteBook
widget instead.
[G.11] Who are using Tix in their software?
ANSWER: I have compiled a list of softwares that use Tix. See
http://www.xpi.com/tix/software.html. (These are only the
ones that I have heard of, either from the authors themselves
or from the TCL FAQ. There should be more of them).
[G.12] I am using a DirList widget. When the user clicks on an item,
the procedure of my -browsecmd gets called twice. However, I
just want it to be called once.
ANSWER: The -browsecmd procedure is triggered by three types of
events: <1>, <ButtonRelease-1>, and <B1-Motion>. When the user
clicks on an entry, a <1> and a <ButtonRelease-1> event will
happen in rapid session, which causes your -browsecmd procedure
to be called twice.
A crude fix for this problem is to ignore all the
<ButtonRelease-1> events. You can find out the event that
triggers the -browsecmd procedure by the tixEvent command. Here
is an example:
tixDirList .c -browsecmd Browse
proc Browse {args} {
if {[tixEvent type] == "<ButtonRelease-1>"} {
return
}
# ....
}
However, the above solution is not perfect. For example, if the user
clicks down the button at entry one, drags it over entries two
and three and release it on top of entry three, the following
events may be caused:
1. <1> on entry one.
2. <B1-Motion> on entry two.
3. <ButtonRelease-1> on entry three.
Therefore, if you use the above method, the browse event on
entry three will be lost!
To devise a better solution, it's better to understand the
basic design conventions of a Tix-based GUI. Suppose we have a
list of entries displayed in a listbox (or DirList, or HList).
When the user clicks on an entry, the GUI usually responds by
displaying a "detailed view" of the entry. For example, if we
put a list of file names in a listbox, when the user clicks on
a file name, we display the contents of the file in a text
window. If the user then clicks on another file name, the text
window will load in the contents of the new file.
Now what happens if the user clicks on the same entry twice? Do
we reload the contents of the file into the text window? This
is usually unnecessary, inefficient and probably not what the
user wants to do. The Tix convention is, when the user clicks
on the same entry again, the detail view is not updated. If the
user wants to force an update (e.g, the user knows the file's
contents has been changed and wants to see the new version), he
or she can double-click on the entry and the application will
respond by redisplaying the detail view (reloading the file).
To implement this policy, the Browse procedure should be
modified as the following:
proc Browse {args} {
global currentView
set ent [tixEvent value]
if {$ent == $currentView} {
# We have already displayed the detailed view of $ent.
#
return
} else {
set currentView $ent
DisplayDetail $ent
}
}
[G.13] I get an error "can't read data(-value): no such element in
array" when I use the tixExFileSelectDialog.
ANSWER: If you use tixExFileSelectDialog like this:
tixExFileSelectDialog .f -command foo
foo {filename} {
destroy .f
do some other stuff ...
}
it will cause a Tcl error because the dialog assumes that it still
exists after calling your command. This usually result in
errors like this:
can't read "data(-value)": no such element in array
while executing
"set data(-selection) $data(-value)..."
(procedure "tixComboBox::SetValue" line 30)
This "feature" is built into many Tix widgets and can't be fixed
easily. To work around the problem, never destroy widgets
inside -command calls. Usually you should unmap toplevel
windows instead. If you must destroy widgets, do it with an
"after" command. For example, the foo procedure should be
rewritten as:
foo {filename} {
wm withdraw .f
do some other stuff ...
after idle {if [winfo exists .f] {destroy .f}}
}
Execute the "after" command at the very end of the -command. Otherwise
the idle handler may be activated by some "update" calls.
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QUESTION ABOUT PORTING TO SPECIFIC PLATFORMS/SOFTWARE
[P.1] The configure script gave me strange errors.
ANSWER: The problem may be you have several operating systems
sharing the same file system. Some people encounter error
messages like this:
# ./configure --prefix=/usr/vendor/tcl
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/installbsd -c
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E
checking for unistd.h... ./configure[603]: "${ac_cv_header_$ac_safe+set}": bad
substitution
The problem is at line 2, configure loaded in ./config.cache, which
may have been created by a different operating system, with
settings only usuable for that operating system. To get around
this, you should type
make distclean
./configure
make all
[P.2] Does Tix 4.1 work with Tk 4.1
ANSWER: Yes, just enable the "Tk 4.1 ..." option in the setup
program. It will also compile Tix in a dynamic lobrary.
[P.3] Does Tix work with Incr Tcl 2.0?
ANSWER: Yes just enable the "Itcl 2.0 ..." option in the setup
program. Make sure you have ITcl 2.0 installed. Beta versions
will *NOT* work. Also make sure you have installed the source
tree of ITcl 2.0 in the same directory where you install the
Tix source tree.
[P.4] How do I get Tix to work with Expect?
ANSWER: From Paul Schmidt (kuato@netcom.com):
I have integrated Tcl7.4, Tk4.0, Expect-5.19 and Tix4.0 on Linux
1.2.13 (ELF) and Solaris 2.4. It isn't too hard. For an expectk+Tix
binary you need to add a call to Tix_Init in exp_main_tk.c. If you
can find the call to Tk_Init then just cut&paste and replace it with
Tix_Init. Do the same if you want a Tk+Tix window shell in
TkAppInit.c. Worked like a charm. If you have any problems just
holler.
[P.5] Solaris 2.4: Filenames in FileSelectBox are chopped off.
ANSWER: Problem:
With Tix4.0a7 (and also with Tix4.0a6) on Solaris 2.4, when running
the widget demo, in tixFileSelectBox, in the two scolling lists (for
Files an Directories), some of the file and directory names have
their first 2 letters chopped off. And some files are repeated.
Solution: tixwish has some conflicts with /usr/ucblib/libucb.so.1 and
you should not linke it tixwish (you don't need it). Here is a
solution provided by Charles L Ditzel
(charles@hanami.cyberspace.com):
To fix the problem I was having, all I did was:
unsetenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH
set my PATH to something basic like:
/usr/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/opt/SUNWspro/bin
removed config.cache
./configure
make clean
make
and now it works!! Must have been something in my old PATH or
LD_LIBRARY_PATH that was causing it to pick up
/usr/ucblib/libucb.so.
[P.6] Do I still need libXpm?
ANSWER: No, now Tix has its own XPM file reader. You no longer
need libXpm.
[P.7] I get a coredump as soon as tixwish starts up.
ANSWER: Try to get a backtrace of the stack when the core dump
happens (with a debugger, for example). If the core dump
happens right inside the call to Tk_ConfigureWidget() inside
the file tixInit.c, then the problem is because you compiled
libtk.a and libtix.a with different versions of the Th header
file tk.h. Delete all the .o files from the src directory of
Tix, fix the Makefile so that now you can compile libtix.a with
the same tk.h that you used to compile libtk.a.
_________________________________________________________________
PORTING FROM TIX 3.6 TO TIX 4.X
[X.1] What happened to the tixInit command?
ANSWER: You don't need to use it anymore. It is provided in Tix
4.x only for backward compatibility.
[X.2] How do I set the schemes and fontsets in Tix 4.x?
ANSWER: You can set the color schemes and fontsets using the
standard X resource database (.Xdefaults file). You can add
these two lines in the user's .Xdefaults file:
*TixScheme: Gray
*TixFontSet: 14Point
If you want to switch color schemes and fontsets during run time, you
can issue the following commands:
tix config -scheme Gray -fontset 14Point
Please read the tix manual page for more details
[X.3] How do I choose the default TK color schemes and fontsets? Tix
is messing up the colors of my existing programs.
ANSWER: Add these two lines in your .Xdefaults:
*TixScheme: TK
*TixFontSet: TK
[X.4] I want the old bisque look of Tk 3.6. tk_bisque doesn't work.
ANSWER: The Tix widgets are not compatible with tk_bisque. If
you want a bisque-ish look you can add to your .Xdefaults file
the following line:
*TixScheme: Bisque
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