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I2V slave implemantation in VHDL ---> Licensing issue by Unknown on Jan 12, 2005			Not available!
Wow, "I'll just do a simple translation of the Verilog version on Opencores." I wouldn't write in the same email that phrase and follow it with a price tag of "3500$", simple things don't cost that much, you must be kidding. Anyways now we run on a license issue, the copyright notice I found in one of the source files is as follows: //// Copyright (C) 2001 Richard Herveille //// //// <A HREF="http://www.opencores.org/mailman/listinfo/cores">richard at asics.ws</A> //// //// //// //// This source file may be used and distributed without //// //// restriction provided that this copyright statement is not //// //// removed from the file and that any derivative work contains //// //// the original copyright notice and the associated disclaimer.//// //// //// (followed by the typical "no warranty" disclaimer in upper case) Is the translation of this copyrighted material a derivative work? I'd say yes May the translation be done? nothing forbids it May the translation be sold? nothing forbids it, only common sense if the price is 3500$ the only restriction is to maintain the copyright notice and disclaimer, am I missing something? I don't see why do you say, Mr. Herveille, that Mr. Brorson can't do it. Can you explain that point? If he can't modify it and sell it... is it an open-core? This is why we should have a clear license, so this issues wouldn't arise. Regards, VÃctor LÃ³pez [q]-----Original Message----- From: <A HREF="http://www.opencores.org/mailman/listinfo/cores">cores-bounces at opencores.org</A> [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.opencores.org/mailman/listinfo/cores">cores-bounces at opencores.org</A>] On Behalf Of Stuart Brorson Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:42 PM To: <A HREF="http://www.opencores.org/mailman/listinfo/cores">cores at opencores.org</A> Subject: Re: [oc] I2V slave implemantation in VHDL Hi Ranga -- I'd be happy to supply you with an I2C slave core. I'll just do a simple translation of the Verilog version on Opencores. First you need to arrange a bank check, drawn on an American bank, for US$3500. Send me the check, and when it clears I'll be happy to e-mail you the source files. I'll send you the address of-line, if you agree to these terms. By the way, I'll be happy to throw in the testbench for free! Your pal, Stuart [q]Hi All, any body can share the I2C slave model for implementing in VHDL? It will be more helpful if u can giveme the testbech also.. thanks in advance.. S.RANGA REDDY _______________________________________________ <A HREF="http://www.opencores.org/mailman/listinfo/cores">http://www.opencores.org/mailman/listinfo/cores</A> [/q] Wow, "I'll just do a simple translation of the Verilog version on Opencores." I wouldn't write in the same email that phrase and follow it with a price tag of "3500$", simple things don't cost that much, you must be kidding. Anyways now we run on a license issue, the copyright notice I found in one of the source files is as follows: //// Copyright (C) 2001 Richard Herveille //// //// richard at asics.ws //// //// //// //// This source file may be used and distributed without //// //// restriction provided that this copyright statement is not //// //// removed from the file and that any derivative work contains //// //// the original copyright notice and the associated disclaimer.//// //// //// (followed by the typical "no warranty" disclaimer in upper case) Is the translation of this copyrighted material a derivative work? I'd say yes May the translation be done? nothing forbids it May the translation be sold? nothing forbids it, only common sense if the price is 3500$ the only restriction is to maintain the copyright notice and disclaimer, am I missing something? I don't see why do you say, Mr. Herveille, that Mr. Brorson can't do it. Can you explain that point? If he can't modify it and sell it... is it an open-core? This is why we should have a clear license, so this issues wouldn't arise. Regards, VÃctor LÃ³pez -----Original Message----- From: cores-bounces at opencores.org [mailto:cores-bounces at opencores.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Brorson Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:42 PM To: cores at opencores.org Subject: Re: [oc] I2V slave implemantation in VHDL Hi Ranga -- I'd be happy to supply you with an I2C slave core. I'll just do a simple translation of the Verilog version on Opencores. First you need to arrange a bank check, drawn on an American bank, for US$3500. Send me the check, and when it clears I'll be happy to e-mail you the source files. I'll send you the address of-line, if you agree to these terms. By the way, I'll be happy to throw in the testbench for free! Your pal, Stuart Hi All, any body can share the I2C slave model for implementing in VHDL? It will be more helpful if u can giveme the testbech also.. thanks in advance.. S.RANGA REDDY _______________________________________________ http://www.opencores.org/mailman/listinfo/cores

I2V slave implemantation in VHDL ---> Licensing issue by Unknown on Jan 14, 2005			Not available!
[q] //// Copyright (C) 2001 Richard Herveille //// //// <A HREF="http://www.opencores.org/mailman/listinfo/cores">richard at asics.ws</A> //// //// //// //// This source file may be used and distributed without //// //// restriction provided that this copyright statement is not //// //// removed from the file and that any derivative work contains //// //// the original copyright notice and the associated disclaimer.//// //// //// (followed by the typical "no warranty" disclaimer in upper case) Is the translation of this copyrighted material a derivative work? I'd say yes[/q] So would I [q] May the translation be done? nothing forbids it[/q] Yep, may be done [q] May the translation be sold? nothing forbids it, only common sense if the price is 3500$ the only restriction is to maintain the copyright notice and disclaimer, am I missing something?[/q] My mistake. Didn't think the 'destributed without restriction' was still in the license. Oh heck, I have to admit that I think it should be in there. Mr Brorson, go ahead and make you $3500 [q] If he can't modify it and sell it... is it an open-core?[/q] Hmm, good question. That's probably another holy war, not even related to the actual license. How would you define an open core? - Source code publicy available; yes - Allowed to use freely (both in free-beer, and in freely available); yes - Allowed to modify to your own needs; yes - Allowed to resell; opinions differ on this one, but I would say yes Note that the above statements don't claim anything about returning any modification, which is what the license war is all about .... [q] This is why we should have a clear license, so this issues wouldn't arise.[/q] I fully agree. Cheers, Richard //// Copyright (C) 2001 Richard Herveille //// //// richard at asics.ws //// //// //// //// This source file may be used and distributed without //// //// restriction provided that this copyright statement is not //// //// removed from the file and that any derivative work contains //// //// the original copyright notice and the associated disclaimer.//// //// //// (followed by the typical "no warranty" disclaimer in upper case) Is the translation of this copyrighted material a derivative work? I'd say yes So would I May the translation be done? nothing forbids it Yep, may be done May the translation be sold? nothing forbids it, only common sense if the price is 3500$ the only restriction is to maintain the copyright notice and disclaimer, am I missing something? My mistake. Didn't think the 'destributed without restriction' was still in the license. Oh heck, I have to admit that I think it should be in there. Mr Brorson, go ahead and make you $3500 If he can't modify it and sell it... is it an open-core? Hmm, good question. That's probably another holy war, not even related to the actual license. How would you define an open core? - Source code publicy available; yes - Allowed to use freely (both in free-beer, and in freely available); yes - Allowed to modify to your own needs; yes - Allowed to resell; opinions differ on this one, but I would say yes Note that the above statements don't claim anything about returning any modification, which is what the license war is all about .... This is why we should have a clear license, so this issues wouldn't arise. I fully agree. Cheers, Richard

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