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150MHz or 300MHz?
by Unknown on Oct 4, 2004
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Dear OpenRisc people, Allow me to introduce myself. I'm Phil Endecott; a while ago I designed the JCN microprocessor http://www.uk.research.att.com/jcn/> and in the more distant past I was involved with the AMULET asynchronous ARMs http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/apt/projects/processors/amulet/>. Since then I've been doing totally different stuff including a hardware VNC encoder http://www.addertec.com/products/remote_ip/ adderlink_ip.html>, an open-source mail server http://decimail.org/>, and genealogy software http://treefic.com/>. But I have recently got interested in processors again as a couple of people have asked me my opinion of OpenRISC (and OPENCORES in general). In particular, one group I know have a plan to build an ASIC to replace a board that currently includes a 266 MHz Xscale. Getting that sort of performance in an ASIC, preferably in 0.18um rather than 0.13, is quite a challenge, don't you think? So how fast can you go? On the web page you don't seem to be very sure... "When implemented in a typical 0.18u 6LM process it should provide over 300 dhrystone 2.1 MIPS at 300MHz" .... "Synthesis for 0.18u UMC using Virtual Silicon libraries produces 25000 gates design with area of 0.5mm2. Post layout worst case timing is 150MHz." So which is it, 150 MHz or 300 MHz ??? Good luck with everything. You could be about to change the landscape of the ASIC world. Lots of people are watching.... --Phil. p.s. You might also like to have a look at the "Flextronics Semiconductor SOC" link on the OR1200 page to http://www.opencores.org/projects.cgi/web/or1k/Silicon which seems to be broken.
150MHz or 300MHz?
by Unknown on Oct 4, 2004
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In particular, one group I know have a plan to build an ASIC to replace
a board that currently includes a 266 MHz Xscale. Getting that sort of
performance in an ASIC, preferably in 0.18um rather than 0.13, is quite
a challenge, don't you think?

So how fast can you go? On the web page you don't seem to be very sure...

I would say that number is more like 150MHz for 0.18u. The design could be
optimized, but it basically does not have any sense, since typical RAMs for
instruction cache are not fast enough. On the other hand, designing custom
instruction cache is a lot of work and process dependent.

Marko



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