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Driven SE 0
by Virendra on Nov 29, 2004
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I would like to know as to how does the USB host drive SE 0 on the bus. I mean the exact events those happen during driven SE 0. I also want to know as to how the UTMI responds to generate SE 0 on its LineState signal. Regards, Virendra. Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.opencores.org/forums/usb/attachments/20041129/2eeaa7f4/attachment-0001.htm
Driven SE 0
by Unknown on Nov 29, 2004
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Hi Virendra,

The picture that i see as a USB host is HOST --> PHY ---> USB BUS.
In this case if the PHY is UTMI, the host has to just keep it in high speed
mode with a proper
combination of xcvr_select and termselect signal. I actually dont remember,
but from what i
remember both should be tied to ground.(just incase check with UTMI spec).
When the host
ties both those signal to ground, the PHY just activates its pulldown
resistors( 15k to both D+
and D-) thereby bringing down the USB bus to SE0 state.

On seeing xcvr select and termselect activating high speed, the default
state of the USB bus
for high speed is SE0, therefore the transceiver reflects this default state
in the line state.

I hope this clarifies your query.

Regards,
Ravi Rajaraman

From: Virendra virendradhavale@yahoo.com> Reply-To: virendradhavale@yahoo.com, "Discussion list about free,open source USB IP core" usb@opencores.org> To: usb opencores usb@opencores.org> Subject: [usb] Driven SE 0 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:42:37 +0000 (GMT) I would like to know as to how does the USB host drive SE 0 on the bus. I mean the exact events those happen during driven SE 0. I also want to know as to how the UTMI responds to generate SE 0 on its LineState signal. Regards, Virendra. Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. _______________________________________________ http://www.opencores.org/mailman/listinfo/usb
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Driven SE 0
by Unknown on Nov 29, 2004
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Hi,

The HS transceiver has 45 Ohm Rs (series resistance) and 15KOhm Rpd
(pull down resistance).
The Rs resistance is connected at the output of the FS/LS driver of the
HS xcvr. This Rs
resistance is connected both at the downstream and upstream port. So in
combination they
provide a 90 Ohm impedance match to the USB cable. To signal SE0, a
strong one, the
downstream port's FS/LS driver drives current through the 45 Ohm Rs.
The Rpd resistances can give only a soft SE0.

For details refer to the Fig 7.1 of USB2.0 specs.

As far as I know the UTMI is only used for the peripheral i.e. on the
upstream ports. So the
question of driving SE0 doesn't arise. Anyway Linestate[1:0] is an input
to the SIE and
cannot be driven.

Regards,
Neelabh


Ravi Rajaraman wrote:

Hi Virendra,

The picture that i see as a USB host is HOST --> PHY ---> USB BUS.
In this case if the PHY is UTMI, the host has to just keep it in high
speed mode with a proper
combination of xcvr_select and termselect signal. I actually dont
remember, but from what i
remember both should be tied to ground.(just incase check with UTMI
spec). When the host
ties both those signal to ground, the PHY just activates its pulldown
resistors( 15k to both D+
and D-) thereby bringing down the USB bus to SE0 state.

On seeing xcvr select and termselect activating high speed, the
default state of the USB bus
for high speed is SE0, therefore the transceiver reflects this default
state in the line state.

I hope this clarifies your query.

Regards,
Ravi Rajaraman

From: Virendra virendradhavale@yahoo.com> Reply-To: virendradhavale@yahoo.com, "Discussion list about free,open source USB IP core" usb@opencores.org> To: usb opencores usb@opencores.org> Subject: [usb] Driven SE 0 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:42:37 +0000 (GMT) I would like to know as to how does the USB host drive SE 0 on the bus. I mean the exact events those happen during driven SE 0. I also want to know as to how the UTMI responds to generate SE 0 on its LineState signal. Regards, Virendra. Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner online. _______________________________________________ http://www.opencores.org/mailman/listinfo/usb
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